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weak government uh you had militia

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we'll talk later in foreign policy n in

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the first election in Bradford West you

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were the third choice I was and yet

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you're standing here as the First Choice

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why should Bradford West just choose you

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if you were the third choice in your own

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membership well the reason why Bradford

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West should choose a laor parliamentary

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candidate is simple because we have real

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de sful people ACR the West we have lots

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of policies which will support that we

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will increase the minimum wage we will

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offer more child care we will bring real

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change to rap West that's exactly why we

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should choose but you're the third

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choice well that will in that section

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meeting according to sources in the

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labor party you got 13 votes I if you

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can't convince your own party colleagues

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are you going to convince the people of

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very clear it's very easy to convince

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the people of Bradford West the liberal

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Democrats tried that with tuition fees

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know what uh the outcome will be after

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so what what will you cut will you cut

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benefit have increased Health spending

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going to cut disability living allowance

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are you going to cut child credits what

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are you going to cut to meet to meet

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above they're going to tax years I think

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the question was addressed I'm allowed

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rules you've just pledged 5 years of no

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tax increases no tax increases with

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these billions that shafik just

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mentioned it has to come out further

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cuts no and we all know you're going to

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cut disability benefit we all know

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child that question what will you we

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spend 50 billion pound a year on

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disability benefits and quite rightly

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say 20 said we had an economy that was

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$2.2 trillion pound rather it is now 2.5

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in X that IS300 billion pound more in

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econom economic growth I don't think I I

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don't think you can answer the question

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let me ask you one more question before

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worth of cuts I voted against it there's

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no need for cuts there's no need for

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austerity we have just agreed we have

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just agreed to renew a set of useless

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ous nuclear weapons and labor and the

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conservatives are united on this

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whatever else needs to be cut the

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nuclear weapons will not be cut they

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cost 100 billion that's 100,000 million

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pounds if people can get their head

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around that waste of money and Vince

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cable a member uh of your cabinet the

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Coalition cabinet said that there's more

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than1 billion every single year avoided

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or evaded in tax by the richest people

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world setting fire to other people's

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countries only to fish them out of the

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Mediterranean when they fall off leaking

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that is thank you judge I I will come

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Commons in the last Parliament and when

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conservative and liberal Democrats who

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vote for those 30 billion pound Cuts how

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financial envelope to me we are in

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austerity we do have how would you have

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would have had to yeah you yes I thought

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Parliament because we have to we would

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we would not be able to speak so the T

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party that you criticize you would vote

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that this mess was caused by the Tories

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join t vot for CS but where those cuts

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the cuts we wouldn't be able to balance

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the books and they're still three years

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off Target let's be clear about that

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would not be telling the voters of

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would be false promises we've had enough

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of false promises over the last

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government we cannot make any false

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promises we have to be realistic what do

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should where will those cuts come we

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asked the conservative party George

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broadcasters where this 12 billion pound

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in welfare cut would come from we didn't

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get an answer we asked him about the 8

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billion pound in the NHS budget that

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he's pledged increase we didn't we

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didn't know where they come from so

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where will your Cuts come from well I'm

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really clear about where we will be

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raising money from that 100 billion the

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have to be where at the moment we've got

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yeah we don't have to cut in Bradford we

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can we talking about when we expain it

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last time I looked NZ sha you were

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standing for Parliament abely and you

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were be standing in the House of Commons

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not in the not in Bradford city

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council who brought the it was Notorious

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it but labor took four and half years

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before they said they would scrap the

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bedroom tax they supported it over the 4

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and a half years until they changed

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their mind now they're campaigning

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against the bedroom T they actually

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ago going through Parliament they did

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vote against took them four and a half

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made commitment that we would abolish

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bedroom tax that is what ourr it took

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you four and a half years to do it we

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did anyway I'm fasinated can we not have

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the camera on her all night please

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because I'd like to hear where the 30

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billion pound worth of cuts that she

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explicitly very very clear but you

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obviously can't understand the 200 where

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where would your Cuts have come from

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where would I'm against the cut i v you

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because you can't Implement anything

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have G as much as I like the sound of

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or what fiscal absolute Manifesto

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Financial one have you got George which

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would you by asking you what means you

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don't even know what the word means oh

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and you do you do sorry You' been You'

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been doing this a lot long guys let's

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will make sure we get cancer tests

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more Midwife and I think that is real

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commitment and we have costed that out

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through our 2.5 billion care to fund um

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time to care fund and that that is going

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to make a real difference to the NHS and

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people and it it was set up under labal

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government and need to be it it

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continuously needs to be belong to the

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people and not be privatized through

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conservatives got in for another 5 years

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the difference between the private

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sector involvement between your party

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very clear about it what we what we have

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Social Care Act of 2014 we what we will

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do is the reason we will repeal that is

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because at the moment chunks of Y chess

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which are the most profitable can be

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difference between the two private

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sector involvement between the two

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governments yes absolutely one's the

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profit one's not profit we don't want we

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want that profit actually let me not

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understanding let me give you the let me

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give you the let me give you the facts

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under 13 years of a labor government

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can you answer that it was Blair and

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brown that began the privatization of

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the National Health Service just like it

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complain that the Tories have marginally

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1% these people cannot be taken

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seriously she's dumbfounded she doesn't

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have an answer she doesn't know that

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answer and if she did know it she'd be

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can I justor yeah please just nail this

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privatization Canard once and for all is

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clear that Naz doesn't really understand

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what she's talking about on your viewers

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already know that that I have SE

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foremost in this country in standing up

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in defense of the Muslims I told the

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labor leader Tony Blair when he invaded

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before in the library Corridor to be

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precise I told them that if you send

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hundreds of thousands of foreign

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soldiers to attack invade and occupy a

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Muslim country you'll end up with war

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throughout the world including on our

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own streets you will place the British

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Muslims and every prevent agenda every

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anti-terrorism measure one after the

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other has completely failed to deal with

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this problem and the more you take that

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hatred of Muslims you will and gender in

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the country and that's why the Henry

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Jackson Society are here it's why Khaled

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Mahmud I mean George is right he's not

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actually responsible for most of the

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crimes of the Henry Jackson Society he

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didn't invent the Trojan HS Khaled

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Mahmud the Birmingham labor MP invented

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it and he's now campaign manager in

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Bradford he's he's been in

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scar we've all seen the pictures why is

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it anybody else we've all seen the

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pictures got pictures of Don't force me

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don't force me to talk about your

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relationship don't force me to talk

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about your

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relationship

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George can I just say can I just say let

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George finish I promise you you can you

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can respond you can respond khed Mahmud

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is the author of The Trojan Hox the

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Trojan Horse That Never Was Khaled

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Mahmud of the Henry Jackson Society is

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one of the Premier witch Hunters of

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Muslims in this country and he's in

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Bradford every other day at nasha's side

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he's running our campaign the Facebook

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pictures the Twitter pictures all prove

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it so we've got Khaled Mahmud in

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Bradford and we've got George Grant of

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the Henry Jack Society in Bradford and

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we've got and we've got and we've got

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from across the Atlantic Louise mench in

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peretic perpetual motion and so it's

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obvious there's a job being done on

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Bradford by the islamophobes by the

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people who hate Muslims I'm the person

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I'm the person who stands up against n

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just respond to to that point about the

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hen Jackson Society khed KH

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sorry mm and his lips to toan horse and

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to any

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other do you reject I no you can ask him

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that I'm asking I'm asking you what do

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you think of the to no let me ask the

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question which you've asked me to and

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let me respond to that first and

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foremost Khaled mmud is is uh old enough

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to answer for himself of what he's doing

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in his ter of his policies I do not

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speak for him he does not manage my

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campaign I have people here who manage

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my campaign yes it is no it is

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absolutely no word of lie it's

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absolutely correct that khed I was

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introduced to khed back in June and that

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was when my political Journey started

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but I am a person of my own oh please

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what are you going to do pull out what

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is it are you afraid

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of please George please no let's stick

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to let's stick to the issue yeah the

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issue there

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there is a perception the neocons like

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the Henry Jackson Society uh the edl the

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quum foundations of these worlds

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perpetuate the islamophobia in society

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KH mmud is a is a member of the board

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Advisory Board of the Henry Jackson

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Society KH mm

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is's I'm asking about islamophobia the

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perpetuate

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islamophobia of no because what we have

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we have unique individual circumstances

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of each country we have the Arab

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uprising I absolutely take I do not take

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I do not agree with George Galloway's

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assertion that because of Iraq we have a

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mess in the Middle East I think there

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was enough prize in the Middle East and

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let's be clear about what happened in

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that with syrians as Tunisia if you look

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at Tunisia now they have some stability

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back they have their own Solutions why

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should we be going in and fixing people

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what fixing things we should be why

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support Libya then because Libya was

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Libya was very you just said you just

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said why should we go in you just said

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let me just let me ask you you just said

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why should we go in and tell them how to

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do it because but yet you support Libya

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and you don't support Sy Libya

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hypocritical position no not really not

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at all it's a contradiction I can hold

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really well and it's not actually it's

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not a contradiction if you look at it if

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you look at it Libya Libya was about a

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tyranny against people path for Syria is

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a negotiated diplomatic transition to

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democracy and I urge the Syrian regime

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to call a democratic election and if

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they had done so at that time they might

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well have avoided This Disaster but for

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n sh to say that she disagrees with me

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that the invasion of Iraq is the cause

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of all this well that's God smacking

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even by harsh standards every fool

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knoweth that sending hundreds of

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thousands of American and British

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soldiers to invade and occupy an Arab

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Muslim country has sent cascading around

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the world all of

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these

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candidates I'm just going to ask you

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candidates I'm just going to ask you

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please just if you just kind of respect

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me I promise I'll get all of

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you I will bring you back uh let's just

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move on um there's a question here for

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you sh around Palestine um it says uh

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Your Leader Edan said he was a Zionist

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do you back him if he said he was a

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Zionist absolutely not because at the

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end of the day what I believe is that

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Adan is not a Zionist it's not something

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that I would sign up to I'm very clear

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that Ed miliband is the person who took

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who to who ensured that we voted for

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Palestine a state in Palestine and our

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absente EMP didn't vote on the issue of

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Palestine he didn't vote for it and I

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think that's absolutely fundamentally

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wrong so yeah I no I don't can we get

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that clear did he is is he a Zionist or

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is he not a Zionist he said he's a

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Zionist understanding of a Zionist is

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that somebody who does not believe in a

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two set solution I think your actions

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speak louder than your word he but he

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has also led the vote for two State

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solution which you haven't voted on Joor

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because I'm against it why would I vote

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for something that I'm against I believe

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that Palestine Palestine should be free

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from the river to the se you say you

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agree but you've just said you support

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solution we have to have a peaceful

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solution George you

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can't I know I I know the contradictions

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are your uh the name of your game do you

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support a two-state solution or should

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Palestine be free from The River To The

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Sea perhaps you don't know what that

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means the river Jord

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cleared on Palestine we recogn I am

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against not

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recognized that is a fact I'm against it

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I'm against

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it it it is it is not a solution that's

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why I'm against it I believe one de one

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Democratic happen to the Israelis who

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live in is they continue to live there

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not in somebody else's house just not on

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somebody else's land it would be a

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bational state called Israel hen

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Palestine Palestine hyphen Israel

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according to your taste that's the only

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thing that actually is a solution the

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other things pretend to be

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Solutions ask question in any future vot

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in the House of Commons in the next

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Parliament because when I spoke to Edan

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last week in my interview which will

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show you hopefully next week Ed Milan

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said that if he was elected as prime

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minister one of the first things he

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would do was encourage the British

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government to formally recognize a

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Palestinian State absolutely you would

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vote against us no of course not but the

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motion that was before the parliament

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recognized the state of Israel and I

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don't I don't recognize it it's an

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illegitimate State a European settler

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colonial state a terrorist State an

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illegal occupier State a possessor of

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illegally acquired nuclear weapons State

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a terrorist State you of course from the

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Henry Jackson Society are the main are

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the main world propagandists for Israel

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now NZ will be grateful I'm sure uh of

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your defense but the people watching

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this program know she her journey began

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last June she tells us after meeting

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khed mahm the other things pretend to be

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Solutions

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any

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F ask a question in any future vote in

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the House of Commons in the next

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Parliament because when I spoke to Edan

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last week in my interview which we'll

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show you hopefully next week Ed Milan

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said that if he was elected his prime

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minister one of the first things he

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would do was encourage the British

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government to formally recognize a

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Palestinian State absolutely you would

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vote against that no of course not but

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the motion that was before the

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parliament recognized the state of

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Israel and I don't I don't recognize it

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it's an illegitimate State a European

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settler colonial state a terrorist State

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an illegal occupier State a possessor of

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illegally acquired nuclear weapons State

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a terrorist State you of course from the

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Henry Jackson Society are the main are

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the main world propagandists for Israel

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now Naz will be grateful I'm sure of

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your defense but the people watching

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this program no she her journey began

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last June she tells us after meeting

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khed mahm well my journey began on

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Palestine in

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1975 as

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ear as God gives me breath I will fight

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for the rights of the Palestinian people

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okay I

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give of Mr Gall accusing anyone who

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opposes him of being a Zionist it is

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absolutely Are you a ridiculous if by a

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Zionist you mean do I believe in a state

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of Israel if by a Zionist you mean am I

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apologist for everything that Israel

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does then absolutely not if you believe

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in the state of Israel You're a Zionist

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why are you being off why are you

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offended I'm not offended I'm I'm

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offended no because I'm offended because

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Zionism today means in people's minds

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the connotation is that you're an

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apologist for everything that the state

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of Israel does that is spend on your

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education a Zionist a Zionist is a

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supporter of the state of is well fine

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everyone everyone